Comments for BMW Unveils Advanced Plug-in Sports Car Concept at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 8 out of 8 comments http://www.ecogeek.org Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:28:21 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29964 Bob - No, There is no difference here than anywhere else. We get a few prius's on the road, but that's it. HKG even designed an EV that wasn't allowed to be sold here (That is slowly changing, but it's not allowed on the highways, so not much use for me. Plus, again, who knows when it's going to happen). I believe any of the BYD PHEV's will be sold on mass in USA before they are sold here. A billion people earning $1 dollar a month still doesn't beat 300M earning $1,000's+ a month. @ Carl - I think people buying high performance cars are the minority. From an environmental point of view, EV's should be targeted at normal people who just want to get from A-B. Having said that, I'll buy a Tesla S / Karma the day they arrive on the showroom floor where I live. - Drew Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:18:19 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29963 Wait a minute Hank-- the things you knock are features not bugs! :) By limiting the battery to a 30 mile range it fits most regular commuting use, lowering the cost, weight, and size of the battery, yet is still suitable for long distance trips in hybrid mode. When using the diesel, it gets 63MPG. Combining the diesel engine with electric to give extra acceleration is also an advantage, because that too allows weaker/cheaper/lighter electric drive. People buy a V-8 version that always gets bad mileage because they like the acceleration. Many people won't buy electric-only (in the near future) because of the price or range. The plug-in hybrid solves these problems. Yes, a car that doesn't allow drivers to "perform like a BMW" is better for the environment, but that doesn't mean lots of people will buy them. The other neat feature in this concept is the lightweighting (presumably why it gets 63MPG). That alone deserves the EcoGeek stamp of approval. Long touted by Avery Lovins at RMI as a solution to the oil endgame, lightweighting in theory is the most cost effective way to improve efficiency. - Carl Hage Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:41:35 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29960 Drew - do you see any signs of BYD's PHEV and EV being sold? And, if so, any info on actual price and performance? - Bob Wallace Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:35:55 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29959 They put a hefty 360 hp in a car that gets 6o mpg. They built in some special effects like a wind curtain to the wheel that improves stability, braking lights that can be seen from the inside of the car to transmit driving conditions to passengers(I'll take a sip of my orange juice just after the next turn). I for myself would take out the diesel and put in a 30kw fuelcell-stack as range extender and be happy with 110 hp of electric power. Yes - certainly a remarkable car. - ds Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:03:41 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29958 no offense China EV, but I live here and I don't see any cars being sold like what you're describing. Again, it's the "car of tomorrow" everyone keeps talking about. You are correct in one thing and that is BMW are scared of what China is capable of. It wouldn't surprise me if BMW are doing what Boeing did to Airbus: Announce plans for some high tech super duper aircraft (which they had no intentions of building) to panic Airbus into making the A380 and virtually bankrupting them. Difference is here, China DO have the capability of leading in the EV race - I hope they do! - Drew Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:53:59 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29957 BMW is so scared of China in e-automotive marketplace, they are forced to make this announcement which is designed to keep people interested in the BMW brand while they try to catch up with China, but not possible now. China has huge lead in electrical vehicles and advanced nano structure resin technology. Even suspension components like springs are made from nano structure resins to keep weight very low for very happiness performance and long battery life. This is the New China Age of the 21 Century. - Golmekker Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:41:53 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29954 Blah Blah. I've been hearing about these sorts of concept cars / car of the future for too long. I want it two months ago, not at some unknown possible maybe time in the future then it never happens. BMW / Merc - whoever - get your crap together. This car, isn't going to happen. - Drew Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:24:52 +0100 http://www.ecogeek.org/automobiles/2930-bmw-unveils-advanced-plug-in-sports-car-concept#comment-29953 As someone who does care about a car performing like a BMW (ignoring the midlfie crisis comment, being 31 and having driven mine since I was 24), I'm thrilled to read this. Until now, AFAIK, they've been focused on hydrogen for greening, and hydrogen combustion (rather than fuel cell) at that. This is certainly much more realistic (unreality of any concept car aside), which is always important. I've been salivating over the Volt, but depending on when something based on this concept is released and exactly when I'm ready for a new car, this could be a sweet alternative. - BenHead Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:27:43 +0100