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		<title>Friedman is Back (Thank God) and Fighting for Solar</title>
		<description>Comments for Friedman is Back (Thank God) and Fighting for Solar at http://www.ecogeek.org , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments</description>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-15468</link>
			<description>tak a look a EMCORE. similar. EMCR. nasdaq - tom</description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:00:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12667</link>
			<description>Dude,

You talk about investing in &quot;clean coal&quot; technologies and the inefficiencies of solar pv systems. First of all, the term &quot;clean coal&quot; is an oxymoron. Not only is it polluting for the environment, it's terrible for the health and safety of the miners who make it available to us. By investing in truly clean energy technologies, like solar, we can still provide job creation and economic growth, but through more socially and environmentally responsible means. 

Second, it is true that solar pv systems are inefficient in their conversion of solar energy to usable AC electricity. Improved efficiencies would mean smaller sized systems could produce as much or more electricity and would hopefully bring costs down. But since the fuel source for solar energy systems (the sun) is both free and nonpolluting, we can argue that efficiency makes no difference. Also, solar pv systems can last 25 years or more with minimal maintenance requirements. You can't say that about a coal power plant.

Lastly, you call rooftop solar energy systems &quot;ugly&quot;. I guess I just don't see something so technology advanced that it can produce clean energy from a daily source of free power as &quot;ugly&quot;. Personally, I find an enormous polluting coal power plant far uglier. Perhaps you just don't have to live or work near one.

Change is hard. But change is necessary to move our country into the future without the diplomatic hurdles of remaining &quot;friendly&quot; with countries that do not share our values, but have the very valuable commodity of oil or natural gas.  - GreenT</description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:22:54 +0100</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12621</link>
			<description>The Way is for a 'New Deal'. Bring all aspects of American society towards renewable energies. Our next president should have a policy that focuses on solar power as a future. Starting with us. All of us. What we need is a firm commitment from our highest representatives to activate a plan for solar panels on every structure built anew. Subsidies for existing buildings to be renovated and buybacks of energy put back into the system. Imagine the jobs that could be created. Not to mention the impact that American ingenuity could have against our national debt. The Middle East has enough cash to last them till the next century, we are lacking if we can't create sustainable income for us and ours. Do we want to owned by China? Thanks Thomas, for coming back.  - maptex</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:21:45 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>exactly</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12620</link>
			<description>Exactly right, Brett.  Besides, compared to Al Gore's lifestyle, this Friedman guy is a rank amateur.  Let's give the guy a break. - AndyM</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:03:26 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Good to have him back</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12606</link>
			<description>Don't we all have a little hypocrisy in us? The US has huge resources for Solar, wind and biomass. Germany made some mistakes and we will learn from them. There is no &quot;perfect&quot; solution and who would want one. It limits innovation, creative energies and really ultimately freedom.

A little history:
Whale oil then coal (subsidized to be competitive with Whale oil), then oil (subsidized to become competitive with coal) and so on.  - Brett</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:14:53 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>human element</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12598</link>
			<description>dude,
X, who stole my cheese?
X &lt; H
X = nuclear,oil,coal,gas
H = human element,sun

coaltrain - coaltrain</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 07:29:28 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Friedman a Great Spokeman for Renewable</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12597</link>
			<description>Last year, Thomas Friedman keynoted at the Renewable Energy Finance Forum-Wall Street [url]http://www.reffwallstreet.com[/url] and was an inspiration to CFOs, CEOs and Managing Directors in renewable energy investing. He is exactly the type of advocate RE tech needs. - Samantha Jacoby</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 07:00:15 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Friedman is wrong</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12591</link>
			<description>While the small gas sales tax won't have a very profound effect, I don't believe that encouraging investment in solar energy is a viable alternative.

Friedman makes a reference to Germany's solar success, in fact this plan has been a disaster.  Most of Germany is situated in a part of the world where climate is simply not conducive to solar energy production.  Germany's program works by creating a lawful transfer payment from citizens who use normal electricity to those who have ugly solar panels installed all over their roofs.  Last year I believe the payment amounted to around 5-6bn Euros.  Solar effectively raised the cost of electricity for the nation.  Germany, realizing the fallacy of this plan has been lowering the transfer payments required under its plan because it is exacerbating an already increasing electricity bill.

The simple fact is that solar is not economically viable because when compared to every type of electricity production it is the most inefficient.  Even if it is run in death valley during the summer it is still by many estimates I've read several times more expensive than coal produced energy even after coal prices have increased dramatically.

The US has vast, vast deposits of coal.  Want to create some jobs in Ohio and Pennslyvania?  Just open some more coal mines and build some new coal power plants.  Instead of encouraging solar electricity investment we should be encouraging investment in technologies to make coal power production cleaner.  Clean coal would not only reduce carbon emmissions but decrease consumer's electric bills.

Ultimately, the only way to control carbon emmissions for the long term is to cap and trade them internationally.  This will encourage investment naturally because it will hit power producers where it hurts most, in the pocketbook. - Dude</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:17:28 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>what is gmoke thinking?</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12588</link>
			<description>Yeah, gmoke.  Jeez, what's a little hypocrisy between friends, just so long as Friedman is pushing my, er, I mean, the right agenda? - AndyM</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:45:20 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Friedman as Ally</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12575</link>
			<description>I have to say that I'm not overly concerned with the way Thomas Friedman lives his life. He could fart mercury and I'd still be singing his praises. 

Championing renewable energy on a national level among the people who have the power to change both the laws and the economy is much more important than anything this guy could do in his own house. I think he knows what he's talking about, and when he doesn't, I think he'll ask the right people. That seems to be a pretty strong trend in his work. - Hank</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:18:42 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>No Ally</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12573</link>
			<description>If you think Friedman is an ally, you will be sadly mistaken.  He's finally jumped on the solar bandwagon a few years after he and his billionaire wife built their own McMansion in Maryland - without any consideration to solar (and I would bet energy efficiency).

He's gonna bigfoot this issue with little knowledge or understanding. - gmoke</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:55:38 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>i'm ashamed...</title>
			<link>http://www.ecogeek.org/solar-power/1595#comment-12569</link>
			<description>It's very disheartening that this far into a presidential election we have almost no focus on energy policy or anything else of substance.  And while I'm not surprised that McCain would pursue the 'gas tax holiday and nothing else meaningful' and downright ashamed of Hillary.  and the best thing you can say about Barack so far is that he hasn't capitulated to 'stupid non-policy' remarks... yet.   - mike</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:55:55 +0100</pubDate>
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